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Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station

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Turn right

23 м

Turn right onto Station Approach

Station Approach, 235 м

235 м

Turn left onto Pickhurst Lane

Pickhurst Lane, 4 km 540 м

4 km 540 м

At roundabout, take exit 3 onto Stone Park Avenue

Stone Park Avenue, 1 km 13 м

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Train operators

Thameslink

Phone:

0345 026 4700

Website:

thameslinkrailway.com/

Train from Bromley South to London

Ave. Duration:

37 min

Frequency:

4 times a week

Estimated price:

$7.59–$17.72

Southeastern

Phone:

+44 345 322 7021

Website:

southeasternrailway.co.uk/

Train from Bromley South to London

Ave. Duration:

30 min

Frequency:

Every 10 minutes

Estimated price:

$8.23–$12.02

Train from Hayes (Kent) to London

Ave. Duration:

45 min

Frequency:

Every 20 minutes

Estimated price:

$10.76–$16.46

London Underground (Tube)

Phone:

0343 222 1234

Website:

tfl.gov.uk/modes/tube/?cid=tube

Train from Victoria station to Acton

Ave. Duration:

24 min

Frequency:

Every 15 minutes

Estimated price:

$3.29–$5.70

Train from Blackfriars station to Acton

Ave. Duration:

32 min

Frequency:

Every 15 minutes

Estimated price:

$3.42–$6.20

Train from Embankment station to Acton

Ave. Duration:

29 min

Frequency:

Every 15 minutes

Estimated price:

$3.42–$5.95

Bus operators

Transport UK

Phone:

+44 20 7788 8550

Email:

customer.care@abellio.co.uk

Website:

transportukbus.com/

Bus from Bromley South Station to Oxford

Ave. Duration:

1h 2m

Frequency:

Every 2 hours

Bus from Great Titchfield Street / Oxford Circus Station to Denehurst

Ave. Duration:

33 min

Frequency:

Hourly

What is the cheapest way to get from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station?

The cheapest way to get from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station is to drive which costs $5.98 - $9.24 and takes 41 min.

What is the fastest way to get from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station?

The fastest way to get from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station is to drive which takes 41 min and costs $5.98 - $9.24 .

Is there a direct bus between Hayes and Acton Town Underground Station?

No, there is no direct bus from Hayes station to Acton Town Underground Station. However, there are services departing from Bromley South Station and arriving at Denehurst Gardens via Great Titchfield Street / Oxford Circus Station. The journey, including transfers, takes approximately 2h 11m.

Is there a direct train between Hayes and Acton Town Underground Station?

No, there is no direct train from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station station. However, there are services departing from Bromley South and arriving at Acton Town station via Victoria station. The journey, including transfers, takes approximately 1h.

How far is it from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station?

The distance between Hayes and Acton Town Underground Station is 28 km. The road distance is 31.4 km.

How do I travel from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station without a car?

The best way to get from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station without a car is to train and subway via London Victoria which takes 1h and costs $9.24 - $20.65 .

How long does it take to get from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station?

It takes approximately 1h to get from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station, including transfers.

Where do I catch the Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station bus from?

Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station bus services, operated by Transport UK, depart from Bromley South Station.

Where do I catch the Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station train from?

Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station train services, operated by Southeastern, depart from Bromley South station.

Where does the Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station bus arrive?

Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station bus services, operated by Transport UK, arrive at Oxford Circus Station.

What is the time difference between Hayes and Acton Town Underground Station?

It is currently 09:08 at both, Hayes and Acton Town Underground Station.

Where does the Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station train arrive?

Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station train services, operated by Southeastern, arrive at London Victoria station.

Can I drive from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station?

Yes, the driving distance between Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station is 31 km. It takes approximately 41 min to drive from Hayes to Acton Town Underground Station.

Where can I stay near Acton Town Underground Station?

There are 18568+ hotels available in Acton Town Underground Station. Prices start at $86.52 per night.

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British Museum

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Thameslink

Southeastern

London Underground (Tube)

Bus operators

Transport UK

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